chemist74

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 10:21:31 AM
The sorbant technology captures/concentrates the mercury but it still needs to be disposed of properly.
Because of all of the restrictions on the use of mercury in the US, the supply of mercury far exceeds the demand for mercury. The federal govenment may be stuck paying to permanently store the mercury that is being pulled out of large commercial processes like chlorine production because the government will not let them continue to use it in the US and will not let them export it.
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gas_too_high

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 8:51:02 AM
This sorbent injection technique looks promising, but there's not much details about what it actually involves. Does it replace mercury with some different pollutant? Where does the mercury actually go?
And Amplion is exactly right about the double standard with safe incandescent bulbs outlawed in favor of mercury-containing compact fluorescents.
GTH
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coughlin

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 8:37:15 AM
Hopefully this will be the Lead Story on every T.V. / radio news broadcast, and on the front page of every newspaper in the State of Texas. Everyone should read the comments of teafortwo in the message posted on Mar 18, 2010 12:30:01 AM. If the State Legislature in Texas really means, "Don't mess with Texas", now would be an excellent time for them to step up to the plate.
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Amplion

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 4:06:17 AM
CFL LIGHT BULBS also have mercury. Seems to me we have a double standard !!!! OUTLAW FLUORESCENT LIGHTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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teafortwo

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 3:30:01 AM
This is another one of those articles where it helps to actually read the article.
This reduction in TOXIC MERCURY can be accomplished for just pennies per customer. But they are not going to bother unless we let them know we insist on it.
Are you really willing to trade your health and the health of future generations for just pennies?
And Number43 from Lexington? Might I suggest you do a little bit of research on mercury levels in fish and the dietary recommendations that have resulted: especially regarding sensitive individuals and in particular pregnant women because of the KNOWN DETRIMENTAL affects of the toxin on the DEVELOPING fetal BRAIN tissue?
Sorry fellas but this is not one of those "ignore it and it will go away" situations.
AGAIN, mercury poisoning is one of those problems that is A LOT CHEAPER and EASIER to PREVENT because it is very DIFFICULT and EXPENSIVE TO CLEAN UP.
Saturn93 from Salt Lake City brought up an excellent point: "The mercury, along with other emissions, go high into the atmosphere only to fall again on distant cities. " BUT, failed to mention that the TOXIC MERCURY that falls on our OCEANS and WATERWAYS dissolves and thereby enters our food chain.
THIS is a very BAD thing and just one more reason to get away from fossil fuels.
I can not help but wonder ... what planet some of you are planning to move to after you POISON and TRASH this one?
FROM THE ARTICLE:
Existing power plants can be retrofitted with sorbent injection with little or no downtime and with a capital cost of between $1 and $3 per megawatt hour.
In addition, mercury can be significantly reduced as a "co-benefit" of pollution controls for other key pollutants like particulate matter, sulfur dioxide, and ozone-causing nitrogen oxides. Mercury is removed as a co-benefit of controlling these pollutants through the use of fabric filters, sulfur dioxide scrubbers, and selective catalytic reduction.
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POLELANE

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 2:28:58 AM
suck the mercury out of the exhaust; and use it in needed productions
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cmburnz

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 2:24:29 AM
Dirtdauber HYEgasCA, What can be fixed?
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BobD2009

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 2:19:57 AM
This is a serious problem that should be addressed as soon as possible. Mercury is very dangerous to humans and wild life.
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OHMS

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 2:15:25 AM
mercury was the god of speed; go for it Texas
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EcoVore

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 2:13:57 AM
Texas needs to upgrade to clean coal fired plants.
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 2:04:14 AM
N5EXY...Your right.
[Edited by: RENEGADEGAS at 3/18/2010 2:05:49 AM EST]
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Pozole

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 2:02:38 AM
...N5EXY, you are SO right about the bulbs...most people don't know how to clean them up when broken, nor dispose of them when dead...
...clean up the refinery emitters...how long can we survive with continuation of mercury pollution ?...
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N5EXY

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Austin
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:56:15 AM
We will really start seeing higher mercury levels when we no longer use Edison's perfectly good light bulb and the cutey curley flourescents hit the landfills and get into the water supply, or, get busted prematurely and all that heavy metal hits the atmosphere.
Good news - it might not affect gas prices!!
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HA4CNN

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:55:04 AM
With everybody going green why are they alouded to polute more rather than less.
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Saturn93

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:53:25 AM
The mercury, along with other emissions, go high into the atmosphere only to fall again on distant cities.
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JoeKR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:50:19 AM
But it's Texas...every rich man for himself!
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Gary65

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:47:47 AM
They better fix and fast.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:47:43 AM
comprof wrote:
>And up gp the electric rates. I think Houston is already about the >higheset in the nation.
A number of places are higher.
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HYEgasCA

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Fresno
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:39:18 AM
it can be fixed.
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arinkrat17

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:38:45 AM
wheres the watch dog's?
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comprof

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:37:56 AM
And up gp the electric rates. I think Houston is already about the higheset in the nation.
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benjy

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:27:39 AM
I agree ILVET ....
[Edited by: benjy at 3/18/2010 1:29:38 EST]
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:27:01 AM
NHLiveFree...but when nothing happens (which will be the case) will you still be so out of touch with reality?
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ILVET

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:22:59 AM
If they do fix it the rates will go up
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Sody33

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:16:11 AM
Oh splendid, just what everyone needs to glow in the dark!
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grouch311

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:15:33 AM
no excuse for these levels
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Number43

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:14:27 AM
I don't trust any left wing wacky porject. They have zero credibility with me. Science mixed with politics is a bad thing.
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DirtDauber

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:13:00 AM
It can be fixed.
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REVLAW

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:12:25 AM
ELE = Extinction Level Event. Environmentalists may appreciate this article, but I do not find it worth reading. So, saith the Queen of Hearts ... "Off with their heads!"
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Number43

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:11:58 AM
I have heard of people screaming over mercury exposture levels that are much smaller than you get from eating fish yet there is no movement to ban eating fresh fish.
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250FORD

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:10:56 AM
I'll bet theyincreased their power rates to pay for what they haven't bought.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:10:24 AM
When acid rain and mercury contamination hit your favorite fishing hole, you won't be so flip and arrogant about a serious hazard RENEGADEGAS!
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Mooseman1

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Manitoba
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:10:00 AM
We will all suffer in the long run.
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Number43

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:09:32 AM
At what levels is it a problem and what are the costs to do this reduction thing?
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Prodaddy

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:08:09 AM
This is not suprising at all
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jadeusa

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:07:15 AM
Noticed that some plants in Texas had also dropped in the last year. There needs to more investigation on mercury emissions.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:06:25 AM
Scrubbers and sorbent injection should be mandatory on all coal-fired power plants! The damn Ohio coal-fired power plants have caused the most environmental damage to lakes ponds and streams in New Hampshire and much of New England!!! The state of Ohio will not step up and do the right thing to regulate the robber barons that own these polluters.
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:06:22 AM
When you see complaints in an article from names like:
The Environmental Integrity Project
and
The U.S. Department of Energy
Its pretty much time to blow the article off as rantings from radical left wing extremists and then research the facts.
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pbc2001

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 1:04:33 AM
Emissions should decrease as technology improves.
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52MPG

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 12:29:38 AM
Alternative power sources are better.
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