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Gasoline costs, energy rivet candidates' attention Thursday, August 07, 2008
The Associated Press -- WASHINGTON (AP) — To understand why Barack Obama and John McCain are emphasizing solutions to the country's energy woes and have scrambled to change their positions, look no further than the voters' distress over $4-a-gallon gasoline and its wide ripple effect. The presidential candidates' sparring over energy peaked this week as each sought to capitalize on a topic that touches every voter and provides a way to discuss the declining economy at home, national security threats abroad and the changing climate worldwide. "Sen. McCain's energy plan reads like an early Christmas list for oil and gas lobbyists," Obama charged Wednesday, a day after accusing the GOP of misstating his proposals. He is using the issue to paint the four-term Arizona senator as a Washington insider beholden to special interests while trying to strike a balance on the environment vs. exploration debate that divides Democrats.
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	Thursday, August 07, 2008 The Associated Press -- WASHINGTON (AP) — To understand why Barack Obama and John McCain are emphasizing solutions to the country's energy woes and have scrambled to change their positions, look no further than the voters' distress over $4-a-gallon gasoline and its wide ripple effect. The presidential candidates' sparring over energy peaked this week as each sought to capitalize on a topic that touches every voter and provides a way to discuss the declining economy at home, national security threats abroad and the changing climate worldwide. "Sen. McCain's energy plan reads like an early Christmas list for oil and gas lobbyists," Obama charged Wednesday, a day after accusing the GOP of misstating his proposals. He is using the issue to paint the four-term Arizona senator as a Washington insider beholden to special interests while trying to strike a balance on the environment vs. exploration debate that divides Democrats. Visit The Associated Press for full article

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Don1222 Veteran Author Michigan Posts:326 Points:27,575 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/14/2008 5:49:42 PM	Ignore Don1222 Report Abuse
	We used to have several small oil refineries. They kept the price of gasoline lower. Than the big oil companies bought them all out. Thus allowing them to control the price of gasoline. This does not seem right, but it happened. We have not had a gas war since.
jim92065 Rookie Author San Diego Posts:95 Points:22,950 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/14/2008 4:48:32 PM	Ignore jim92065 Report Abuse
	tdn117, Right on! The Dems can only survive by blaming others and creating a convenient scapegoat (kinda like what Hitler did). Most of the problems are perpetuated by them, so they can keep power. They keep minorities down, so they can keep promising what they never intend to deliver. They blame "Big Oil" for stuff they (the Dems) cause, because they know the majority of people are incapable of independent, rational thought. It's easier to hate than to think, and the Dems are experts at spreading hate and suppressing thought. [Edited by: jim92065 at 8/14/2008 4:53:56 PM EST]
GasholeMI Sophomore Author Lansing Posts:195 Points:29,975 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 11:55:32 AM	Ignore GasholeMI Report Abuse
	I agree with Lengas--get rid of all incumbents.
tdn117 Rookie Author Twin Cities Posts:54 Points:209,190 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 11:04:38 AM	Ignore tdn117 Report Abuse
	Lengus - great idea, but instead of getting rid of ALL incumbents, lets get rid of the ones that won't allow us to get our own energy resources.
tdn117 Rookie Author Twin Cities Posts:54 Points:209,190 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 11:01:17 AM	Ignore tdn117 Report Abuse
	"Sen. McCain's energy plan reads like an early Christmas list for oil and gas lobbyists," Obama charged Wednesday" I can't believe people and the media keep falling for this crap. Why is it Democrats always have to demonize someone making money? Hey, if we don't like the oil companies making so much money, we are all free to step up to the plate and start up our own oil company. Then we can charge lower prices because we all care so much and want to make as little as possible, and our stockholders won't mind a bit [sarc]. Better yet, if we are so ticked off about oil companies making all that money, instead of complaining about it, we can join them by buying their stock! While I personally don't choose to do this, if I did directly own stocks like BP or Exxon, every time gas prices go up, I might not be so unhappy because I know my investment is probably going up along with the price. "We are a nation of whiners" - Phil Gramm
SomeChick23 Sophomore Author Edmonton Posts:110 Points:74,175 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:54:25 AM	Ignore SomeChick23 Report Abuse
	They are just hoping to get votes, i doubt either of them will come through.
irish15pilot Veteran Author Charleston Posts:465 Points:870,205 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:45:57 AM	Ignore irish15pilot Report Abuse
	Guarddog - People are comfortable with the candidate they are familiar with.
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,776 Points:738,160 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:41:32 AM	Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse
	Let's face it. Two very different men, two very different viewpoints. One does not like high gas prices at all and one does not like them rising so fast. Both agree that we need alternatives. Both know that raising supply will lower prices both in the short run and the long term. Both know that the oil rig of today is not even comparable (environmental wise) to the oil rigs of 30,40 or 50 years ago. Do we want to go bankrupt waiting for alternative energy to get cheaper over the next 30 years or do we want to increase supply to lower energy costs and keep us out of bankruptcy while alternative energies are developed and made cheaper? [Edited by: BoerneWatch at 8/8/2008 10:42:44 AM EST]
guarddog Rookie Author Illinois Posts:48 Points:850,075 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:40:53 AM	Ignore guarddog Report Abuse
	Lengas-That is the best thing to do. But a lot of people vote for a name they recognize.
TheSultan Sophomore Author Rochester Posts:127 Points:44,150 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:40:10 AM	Ignore TheSultan Report Abuse
	Let's see if one of them has the balls to stand up to Big Oil
mahenv7 All-Star Author Toronto Posts:740 Points:151,185 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:39:30 AM	Ignore mahenv7 Report Abuse
	it's just used car sales man talking.
Rageagainsttm Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,448 Points:341,070 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:36:39 AM	Ignore Rageagainsttm Report Abuse
	u dont say
Lengas Champion Author Gary Posts:4,082 Points:1,025,470 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:27:46 AM	Ignore Lengas Report Abuse
	Do nothing congress won't act, get rid of all incumbents.
ramboTX All-Star Author Dallas Posts:603 Points:116,270 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:27:22 AM	Ignore ramboTX Report Abuse
	It all comes under tell the people what they want to hear. They will vote for you.
mvosevich All-Star Author St. Louis Posts:857 Points:179,200 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:26:27 AM	Ignore mvosevich Report Abuse
	Won't it be great when the election is over and we don't have to listen to this BS anymore,I can hardly wait.
rogerparry All-Star Author Florida Posts:879 Points:200,020 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:25:59 AM	Ignore rogerparry Report Abuse
	More noise. They are only talking about it because of the elections.
OKRifle All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:751 Points:158,430 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:25:36 AM	Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse
	Toddc2008 Veteran Author, Dallas Was this the one you meant? ""If anyone wants to call "der Fuerher" Pelosi, the Phone number for the Capital switchboard is as follows and they will be happy to connect you to her office. We encourage all to call and tell her what you think of her. (202)224-3121 "" [Edited by: OKRifle at 8/8/2008 10:26:18 AM EST]
brutus Champion Author Alberta Posts:1,292 Points:845,355 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:20:10 AM	Ignore brutus Report Abuse
	Yakkity Yack!
Ducky_NS Rookie Author Halifax Posts:45 Points:80,450 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:18:49 AM	Ignore Ducky_NS Report Abuse
	Only in America.
Rivermedic Veteran Author Fort Worth Posts:414 Points:76,580 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:17:31 AM	Ignore Rivermedic Report Abuse
	Obama is flopping like a fish out of water!
Toddc2008 Veteran Author Dallas Posts:305 Points:111,705 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:14:05 AM	Ignore Toddc2008 Report Abuse
	Go to the topics list and tell all your friends that Pelosi's phone number is there!
techque Sophomore Author St. Louis Posts:235 Points:872,900 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:13:23 AM	Ignore techque Report Abuse
	all of the above is the only long term solution .
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:7,298 Points:1,224,405 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:13:19 AM	Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse
	I find it interesting that Obama was absolutely opposed to drilling (and in favor of $4+ gas) and is now OK with drilling. I also find it interesting that as gas has gone up McCain was interested in saving Polar Bears, but will now entertain drilling in ANWR. Hypocrites or "maturation on the issues"? You decide.
markmoore80 All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:658 Points:250,005 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:13:06 AM	Ignore markmoore80 Report Abuse
	All talk, no real action.
radicale Veteran Author Calgary Posts:495 Points:146,045 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:11:45 AM	Ignore radicale Report Abuse
	Sounds like a lot of hot air to just get attention. When push comes to shove, nothing will happen from that arena
PizzaMon Sophomore Author Philadelphia Posts:125 Points:288,425 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:10:09 AM	Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse
	I don't understand the Democratic Party's position on energy. Could it be: "Do nothing in order to get elected" They don't have my vote of confidence.
acknot Veteran Author Seattle Posts:472 Points:560,075 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:06:53 AM	Ignore acknot Report Abuse
	When can you ever believe politicians?
Toddc2008 Veteran Author Dallas Posts:305 Points:111,705 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:06:12 AM	Ignore Toddc2008 Report Abuse
	If anyone wants to call "der Fuerher" Pelosi, the Phone number for the Capital switchboard is as follows and they will be happy to connect you to her office. We encourage all to call and tell her what you think of her. (202)224-3121 We have been calling every day.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:7,775 Points:627,135 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:06:02 AM	Ignore tomok Report Abuse
	McPain and B.O. will say anything to get your attention.
MNTraveler Sophomore Author Minnesota Posts:150 Points:40,285 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:05:09 AM	Ignore MNTraveler Report Abuse
	To bad we do not have good choices for president.
Toddc2008 Veteran Author Dallas Posts:305 Points:111,705 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:04:36 AM	Ignore Toddc2008 Report Abuse
	Write down the number and give it to all of your friends and family. Let's get these prices down!!
rbdesigns Veteran Author Modesto Posts:290 Points:84,320 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:03:33 AM	Ignore rbdesigns Report Abuse
	Politicians will say anything to get elected!
wireman64 Rookie Author Albany Posts:42 Points:2,955 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:02:36 AM	Ignore wireman64 Report Abuse
	Put that gauge where the sun don't shine.
MedicKirk1 Rookie Author New Hampshire Posts:69 Points:60,200 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:02:00 AM	Ignore MedicKirk1 Report Abuse
	How about "conservation" AND "exploration"?
Toddc2008 Veteran Author Dallas Posts:305 Points:111,705 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:01:35 AM	Ignore Toddc2008 Report Abuse
	If anyone wants to call "der Fuerher" Pelosi, the Phone number for the Capital switchboard is as follows and they will be happy to connect you to her office. We encourage all to call and tell her what you think of her. (202)224-3121 We have been calling every day.
Egaser Sophomore Author Atlanta Posts:167 Points:94,600 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:00:00 AM	Ignore Egaser Report Abuse
	I think we should all get Obama tire gauges!
funandtrvl All-Star Author Illinois Posts:948 Points:127,675 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:58:16 AM	Ignore funandtrvl Report Abuse
	And well it should.
frede2 Champion Author Texas Posts:3,167 Points:705,795 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:56:13 AM	Ignore frede2 Report Abuse
	Toddc2008, in the Brazosport area on the coast (Freeport, Lake Jackson) it is $3.39 today at a few places.
ups4christ Rookie Author San Bernardino Posts:32 Points:13,790 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:55:55 AM	Ignore ups4christ Report Abuse
	Lets drill some holes and inflate tires.
tazdriver Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,849 Points:479,575 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:55:27 AM	Ignore tazdriver Report Abuse
	Any why not it jeopardizes our liberty.
Chazzer Champion Author Nevada Posts:7,619 Points:1,639,135 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:53:48 AM	Ignore Chazzer Report Abuse
	They both are only giving lip service. It's what they can do after the election ... like get the Congress off their fat duffs!
Toddc2008 Veteran Author Dallas Posts:305 Points:111,705 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:53:42 AM	Ignore Toddc2008 Report Abuse
	We should vote to impeach "der Fuerher" Pelosi!!
throttle Champion Author Maryland Posts:4,117 Points:931,350 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:52:55 AM	Ignore throttle Report Abuse
	Same old song. Whatever happened to "change"?
Toddc2008 Veteran Author Dallas Posts:305 Points:111,705 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:52:25 AM	Ignore Toddc2008 Report Abuse
	Al Gore is a joke and a scam artist!
alsal55 Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:226 Points:269,280 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:52:20 AM	Ignore alsal55 Report Abuse
	These guys are Johnny Come Latelys. This is not a new problem. They've sat on their hands for the last four years and allowed us to become more dependant on foreign oil when there's enough untapped reserves in our own country to cover our needs for the next 80 years. Pelosi goes on vacation, ignoring what voters clearly want, while the rest of us cancel vacations because of high fuel costs. When the airlines and hotels start closing down because nobody can afford to travel, maybe, just maybe, these geniuses will get a clue.
Mikey8494 Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,511 Points:657,725 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:51:49 AM	Ignore Mikey8494 Report Abuse
	Yeah Yeah
Gassie1 Champion Author Akron Posts:3,930 Points:474,385 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:51:39 AM	Ignore Gassie1 Report Abuse
	Promote new technology
Brockvillian Veteran Author Ontario Posts:357 Points:261,345 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:51:31 AM	Ignore Brockvillian Report Abuse
	Have Gore as a write in vote. Sure he is boring, but he could clean up the messy political situation in the states right now.
Sealer Champion Author Charleston Posts:1,908 Points:212,255 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:50:46 AM	Ignore Sealer Report Abuse
	Why won't either of them consider drilling in the mud flats of ANWR?
44Irish All-Star Author Ontario Posts:820 Points:209,850 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 9:50:17 AM	Ignore 44Irish Report Abuse
	If you vote for me ....