honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 5:10:12 PM
too costly, not enough range and no way to recharge via solar stations.
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NOTSOGRN

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Michigan
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 5:02:26 PM
. . Just an FYI Ford sold the name Leaf to Nissan. Good grief I could not see an Ford Leaf.
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sparky808

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 1:30:48 PM
Thank you for posting.
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 7:49:00 AM
Focus, all electric, 105MPGe, Nissan, Leaf, etc.... Inbreds and EV's are too high priced for me. With the high price of a new EV or Inbred, I will drive my current vehicle into the ground before buying anything new, used, EV, Inbred, diesel, hydrogen, alternative fuel, CNG, concept or anything else. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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KrsnaDragon

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Montreal
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 1:18:49 AM
...And I'm still not sold on EVs.
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N5EXY

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Austin
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 1:04:31 AM
I still like 105 mph, not mpg.
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nomad228

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Columbus
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:56:52 AM
oooops make that a gm/c granite ...well i guess they could make a chevy version. : )
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:50:01 AM
Best mileage vehicle will have only one propulsion system. Multiple systems (hybrids) usually mean excess weight and a drain on the mpg rating...
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nomad228

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Columbus
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:47:29 AM
how about a chevy granite truck(full frame seperate bed from cab) 4x4 with a 4.3 v6 engine that runs on ethanol,diesel,gas,liquifide(liquefy) methane with electric generated charge on braking system. then we would have something to talk about. can't haul anythign in a toy car like a focus without shredding the interior.just ain't worth it for my purpose.the focus is great for people on a game show not really doing anything with it,like people in the real world with four kids and groceries in the back as the suspension collapses under the weight or dragging your rea end on the pavement as a speed bump tears off the bumper facia. : )
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kgbellman

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Ann Arbor
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:46:14 AM
Wonder how much in the real world
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52MPG

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Dayton
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:43:30 AM
Looking forward to seeing the car.
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abacus44

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Toms River
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:39:03 AM
Not interested.
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FuelOilOH

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:35:59 AM
Ford is clearly the peoples American car company what with them refusing the government handout and all. I'll be more interested when I start to see independent repair shops advertising deals on replacement batteries for these. Or will the body rust out just when the batteries go dead and make it a sell for scrap car when its battery life cycle is over?
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:27:25 AM
Not a EV fan!
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Rageagainsttm

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Tampa
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:26:31 AM
not for me
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rawdog1313

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Lexington
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:24:59 AM
Wow.......
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gmcgas

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:23:17 AM
nope.
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Lerxst17

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Dallas
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:21:37 AM
So.
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chuckwthompson

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Charlotte
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:20:19 AM
76 miles would not even get me to work and back! No where to charge a vehicle at work. Good luck with that. Let me know how that works out for you!
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RetFireLT

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:19:22 AM
Ok.
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rd2000

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Florida
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:18:04 AM
Good on ford lets hope there are amny more EV cars to come.
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SBlouch

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:17:48 AM
An electric car is my cup of tea. Just see how much one will save as the electric rates keep going up and up.
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ssect8

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Hartford
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:17:32 AM
As my math teacher used to say, they are lies and dam lies and statistics. The EPA is just juggling numbers.
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Zonk

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Michigan
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:16:39 AM
76 miles per charge is not in my plans.
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NorthglennBill

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Denver
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:14:36 AM
Ford has sure been getting after it these days. Turn them loose on electric cars and they just might turn them into a viable option.
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crreed1

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:14:20 AM
where do you recharge them?
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jem069

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Detroit
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:14:17 AM
Ok
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Dodge_Me

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:14:01 AM
Not too bad
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FlyingTigersPC

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Virginia
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:13:34 AM
battery pack will still have to be replaced every 3-5 years depending on how hot your climate is. At a cost of more than 5 grand or more.
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DeeLA

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:13:10 AM
I commented on this article yesterday
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tedjm1

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New York
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:13:08 AM
Limited distance, charging favilities, time to charge for trip continuation. All problems yet.
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Bigwaynef

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:12:52 AM
Might make it past 9 holes on a regular golf course!
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regout

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Quebec
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:12:06 AM
You don't have to drive far because you will have to waite time while refuel it. I mean electric fuel.
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mgune9

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Dallas
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:12:05 AM
fine -- but what's the range and cost effectiveness???
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jkpsr

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:10:54 AM
Another $40K + wonder.
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otherdave

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Indiana
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:10:06 AM
Volt? Leaf? Focus? How sad?????
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HEBster

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:08:02 AM
Works for me!
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milespergallon

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Illinois
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:06:00 AM
Do NOT care. They are worthless junk. They do not belong on the road. They are a disaster to the public
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umitb

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:05:16 AM
ok
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bpj13

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:03:56 AM
Ok
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Toppers

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 12:03:35 AM
Sounds good
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nightworker998

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Maryland
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:57:06 PM
Great 105 mpge whatever that is and 200m/chg
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boatmen

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New York
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:51:08 PM
great for golf course
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tippybuddy

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Ontario
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:50:30 PM
again I can't afford to buy any of these new energy saving cars
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SpankyMI

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:49:40 PM
Again, if you need to travel less than 75 miles at a time, and can find a place to recharge it along with the cash or credit to afford one, go for it.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:49:13 PM
Just wanted to comment on alydown's post earlier. Buddy, do you enjoy peeing in everyone's cornflakes? How about a little positivity, once in awhile? Now onto some clarification.
Every new technology is expensive at first. Anyone remember how expensive PCs were even 10 years ago? How about cellphones? Technology doesn't improve incrementally. It improves exponentially. EV prices will be comparable to regular cars in five to ten years. In the meanwhile, somebody has to be first. The automobile was a rich man's toy once, also.
As to charging time, all new EVs have a quick charge option that will charge a nearly dead EV battery to 80% charge in under 30 minutes. If you're on the road, pull over, plug in, and get some lunch at Chili's, which will probably have an EV parking spot up front with the charger. Top off the rest of the charge at home using the most basic 110V outlet. For a quicker charge at home, use the 220V circuit that you use for the clothes dryer.
A full charge will use 12kWh of electricity which on average costs $3.00, even cheaper if you charge the car at night if your power company uses off peak pricing. The battery should last the life of the vehicle; 10 years or 150,000 miles. These batteries are never fully discharged like laptop batteries so their lifespan is much longer. Any doubts? Prius battery technology has been on the road for over a decade and nobody talks about those battery packs wearing out. For the record, we are talking about a pure electric vehicle, not a hybrid so there is no gasoline involved. They used the 105mpg(e) to just give the consumer a common frame of reference. That number is derived by taking the thermal energy of one gallon of gasoline and using it to run an electrical generator at a powerplant. One gallon of gasoline will produce 12kWh of electricity.
And for the record, I own a 2007 Prius with 95,000 miles on it, all of it trouble free and yes I would buy another one.
Try to have a little faith in technology, everybody. Without it, we'd be lighting our homes with whale oil and dying of cholera at 35 years old.
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:47:19 PM
Ford did it without subsidies
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q2

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Alberta
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:46:26 PM
high gas or high power prices
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us4usa

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Missouri
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:45:52 PM
Thats my next car...
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DriverofRed

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Calgary
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 11:44:35 PM
great!
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