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Library of Economics and History -- In the Weekend Interview in today's Wall Street Journal (WSJ editor Rob Pollock interviews George Shultz), Shultz says the following:

And one thing you know from experience is when you control the price of something, you end up getting less of it. So if you control the price of health-care providers, you will have fewer of them and that's gonna wind up as a crisis. The most vivid expression of that . . . was Jimmy Carter's gas lines.There's nothing incorrect about this statement. But it gives the reader the impression that Jimmy Carter was the president who introduced price controls. Shultz knows better. It was his boss, Richard Nixon, who introduced price controls on everything and kept them on gasoline.

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Submitted Jul 15, 2012 By: leemun

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MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,549 Points:767,755 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 12:56:13 AM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse The simple key to regulating the commodity trading markets is to make it illegal to buy or sell future contracts relating to that commodity for anyone or any entity that is not engaged in the initial production of a commodity or uses that commodity for the production of goods or services. The penalty for US domestic persons or entities who buy or sell future contracts relating to a commodity that are neither initial producers of that commodity or do not use that commodity for the production of goods or services should be a fine equal to the face value of the illegal future trading contract or contracts plus incarnation for 1 to 5 years of that individual or the CEO of the entity that engaged in illegal future commodity contract trading. In addition, any person or entity that engages in illegal future commodity contract trading whose legal residence is in a foreign country will have any assets within the US forfeited to the US government & that person or entity will be bared from future business dealings within the US or with US domestic individuals or business entities for a period of 5 years. These measures should be sufficient to keep all traders who are not involved in the actual use or production of any commodity out of any commodities future trading markets.
jimpeel Veteran Author Colorado Posts:462 Points:107,540 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 12:37:12 AM Ignore jimpeel Report Abuse "Reagan finished the job within his first month in office." At least one of them knew how to get something done.
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:556,980 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 12:33:42 AM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Hmm, sounds like we're between a rock and a hard place
Cableman66 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,120 Points:491,895 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 12:31:36 AM Ignore Cableman66 Report Abuse And your point is? Both parties are responsible. Get government out of the way and lets get on with moving the country ahead. This country is like a rudderless ship and is just floating around cause the Captain of the ship has no idea what to do about the economy.
NorthglennBill Champion Author Denver Posts:7,432 Points:1,473,895 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 12:02:19 AM Ignore NorthglennBill Report Abuse Government meddling never seems to work. Now we have them messing with health care. Going to be a big mess.
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Amtrgas Champion Author Oakland Posts:2,678 Points:1,622,570 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 11:49:48 PM Ignore Amtrgas Report Abuse You can try to control the price of gasoline. But, you might not be successful.
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nomad228 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,117 Points:575,140 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 11:38:51 PM Ignore nomad228 Report Abuse yep the gov'ment will always try to control our gas prices while they have no problem filling their tanks on our dime....make that 50 dollars each tank. : )
beachmanglen All-Star Author Tampa Posts:679 Points:497,100 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 11:36:34 PM Ignore beachmanglen Report Abuse It's a basic law of economics. If you control prices, the producers will produce less, thus creating shortages. I remember the long lines of the 70's and early 80's.
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goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,946 Points:1,926,555 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 11:25:17 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Gasoline Price Controls was big issue in presidential election. Congress wouldn't support dropping them under Carter.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,630 Points:3,496,655 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 11:23:42 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Everything the government regulates gets more expensive. College education and health care are two of the biggest examples.
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