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FL-girl

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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2004 4:25:57 PM

Does anyone know anyone who has been diagnosed with it? And if so, did you help in getting them to have it diagnosed and how did you get them to see they might have a problem?
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goforlars
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2004 10:24:38 AM

My oldest son has recently been diagnosised with Borderline Personality Disorder. It is similar to Bipolar but has more issues that Bipolar.

Therapy is a must and the families support.
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micah1701
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2004 9:09:09 AM

good point FL-girl. I interpreted your "interesting" comment as your acceptence of storkys comment was the truth.

As long as you understand its an opinion, thats cool with me. I also didn't say storky was wrong, I just question the authenticity of the source.

on the bi-polar topic, did anyone watch the apprentice this winter? did anyone else think that Sam (and his $1,000 glass of lemonaide) was probably bi-polar? He exhibited a LOT of similarities to my old boss who continues to undergo treatment.
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FL-girl
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2004 9:03:23 AM

Still interesting... it doesn't effect my opinion about him, just interesting. Everyone has a right to an opinion.
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2004 8:57:43 AM

FL-girl, its not nice to know, its total crap.

first of all, storky said, "I THINK our President just might be bipolar" that is storky's opinion. The article doesn't mention a bi-polar disorder.

second, the article comes from an unreliable-at-best fly-by-night online news service that only quotes annonymous insiders. This story has not been varified by ANY other news source.
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FL-girl
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2004 8:49:27 AM

Nice... good to know and very interesting! Who'd of thought?
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FL-girl
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2004 8:29:13 AM

taxcutter - do you not notice cause you're just used to it now??
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taxcutter
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2004 2:27:25 AM

I will just say something that I feel needs to be said...My wife has Bi-polar, and even though I have been married to her for nearly 23 yeare, I can not always tell when she is getting going out of control.

I have told friends who see her on a weekly basis to tell me if they notice a upswing. My point is it is very helpful to the family if we are alerted before it gets out of hand. Most family will not be ofended if you cared enough to try to help?
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FL-girl
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2004 8:50:15 AM

Thanks gina - something else I could look into before talking tohim more. You may be right - I've never confronted anyone (that I know of) with either, so I wouldn't know it from seeing it.

JamesR, thank you, too, for your insight. You all are really helping me out here with these bits of knowledge!
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grumpyfemal
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2004 2:03:29 PM



We are getting our 11 year old tested for bi-polar. We found out it is not ADDA and not autism. Also she is a special needs child, plus she has issues, then bi-polar. Like my son says she is Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde in a worst way. It is always a adventure when you have a kid with bo-polar.
We have hidden all the sharp things that she could use in destorying
things (she is good at that) Thank God she has not came after anyone with any sharp objects.
What is bad that here i can not seem to find any support groups of any kind. In the last couple years i found a neighbor whos daughter has it and we compare notes. I go crazy here not be able to
talk about my daughter, find other people who child is bi-polar.
By the way i live in Oregon
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JamesR
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2004 1:23:19 PM

Some random observations:

I've seen an individual with bipolar disorder cycle between the manic and depression phases once or twice a day for weeks on end and then stay in the manic phase for months before reverting to depression for a week or two. It was like watching a switch being turned on and off. The change from one phase to the other occured in a split second. This was in the same individual.

Bipolar disorder does appear to be heriditary. If one parent has the disorder there is a 15 to 30% chance that any offspring will have it as well. If both parents have the disorder the risk rises to 50 to 75%. In a study of identical twins the chance of one having the disorder if the other had it was 70%. This was true whether the twins were raised together or apart. If a second-degree relative is afflicted the chances are 3 to 7%. For the general population the rate is 1%.

During the manic phase the individual usually has a high sex drive. Unfortunately high risk behaviour during this time can include having unprotected sex with multiple partners. During the depression phase sex drive can be nearly or completely absent.

Contrary to popular belief, those with bipolar disorder can and do have hallucinations, both visual and auditory. Extreme delusions of grandeur are a defining symptom of the disorder as is the inability to empathize with others. During the manic phase, others are simply things to be controlled. They're not regarded as people with feelings.

The worst part of living with someone with the disorder is the violence. The other family members will usually hide or throw out any objects that could remotely be used as a weapon. The only knives in the house will be table or butter knives. There won't be any bread or chef's knives anywhere. I've had to use pliers to remove a fork embedded in a door by a 90 lb female.
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2004 9:29:21 AM

Storky: what you are deescribing is sounding like SCHIZOPHRENIA which is a disorder with delussions and parinoid hallucinations.

Robin Marie: The problem is that so many of the anti-depessants that they have cause sexual side effects and supress the desire for sex. It's a catch 22. You need all the support network you can get, but in taking the meds you often issolate your wife or husband.

here is a simple web site that trys to explain the differences in all these labels.
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ginag13
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2004 9:19:32 AM

I need to comment:

Uncle Neal: Being on disability because of a metal disorder is NOT a free ride. I am constantly being annalized and in therapy, with the stupid disability company always breathing down my neck trying to find a way to cut me off disability. This leads to more emotional troubles as I can't focus on trying to get better when I am constantly worried if I have a roof over my head.

Flygirl: It sounds more lickly that your friend has borderline personality disorder. People with this condition fly off the handle at the slightest thing and their moods change rapidly from one extream to the next. Bi-polars get into a mood, say elation over exsess spending and stay that way for days or weeks at a time. It is not a quick change or flip flops.

nae: are you sure they did not treat you for post partum depression?
It is certainly news to me that bi-polar is hereditary.
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TRIP1
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2004 4:18:27 PM

I am bipolar....I see a shrink & take meds for it. Just found out this past march.

www.my.webmd.com/NR/internal.asp?GUID={189D4A31-F8E9-4FAC-B5FC-5A0547DBBBB3}
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JamesR
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2004 3:58:36 PM

I just found out that they have a website at www.bipolarchild.com
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JamesR
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2004 3:45:04 PM

In children early symptoms include reduced need for sleep in infancy, extreme separation anxiety, extreme rage and violence towards parents and siblings but not to outsiders, unexplained stomach aches, etc. Parents and siblings will walk around on eggshells to try and avoid triggering violent outbursts while to outsiders the child seems to be well-behaved and intelligent.

It's much easier to get treatment for a bipolar individual while he or she is still a child. Once they become adults the only way they can legally be forced into treatment is if they have a psychotic episode, at least that's the case here in Canada. Ironically the disorder is much more difficult to diagnose in childhood. I recommend [i]The Bipolar Child[/i] by Papolos & Papolos, ISBN# 0-7679-1285-3
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2004 2:55:58 PM

Yes to first question. No to second one.
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ROBIN MARIE
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2004 2:12:32 PM

outafocus,

did your wife stop wanting attion from you?? did she not want sex, and not want to be happy when she was going thru the lows???

please tell me, or if anybody else has the awnser to that you can tell me
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heidi360deg
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2004 12:21:19 PM

good im glad i could help you in some way. if you ever want to talk or something email me. i know right now i can tell that im going to be soon going through my lows, i can feel myself starting to get more bitchy, moody ready to bite someones head off over nothing at all. so i know i like to talk alot before i go into my lows.
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FL-girl
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2004 12:00:09 PM

Thanks, heidi360deg... it does help. :)
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heidi360deg
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2004 5:22:12 AM

FLY GIRL ....... TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH YEAH WHEN I AM IN THE RIGHT FRAME OF MIND YEAH IT HELPS TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS THERE FOR ME WHEN I HAVE MY EPISODES, BUT WHEN I HAVE MY MOMENTS IT'S LIKE I CANT TELL IF I AM COMMING OR GOING, I'M VERY , VERY BITCHY AND I TEND TO GET A LIL VIOLENT, BUT THEN JUST AS FAST AS THE WIND BLOWS I THEN GET REALY DEPRESSED, THEN I ISOLATE MYSELF AND MY FRIEND/ EX-BOYFRIEND NO MATER WHAT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR ME. I KNOW IF IT WASNT FOR HIM I WOULDNT BE HERE RIGHT NOW CAUSE I WAS DEPRESSED A COUPLE YEARS BACK AND I OVERDOSED ON A FEW DIFERENT PILLS, WELL IF HE DIDNT COME HOME EARLY FROM WORK TO FIND ME IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO LATE, YEAH I WAS REALY PISSED OFF AT HIM FOR COMMING HOME, AND TO THIS DAY I SAY YEAH IM STILL PISSED AT HIM FOR COMMING HOME EARLY, BUT I FIGURE THERE IS A REASON WHY IM STILL HERE? I DID DAMAGE MY HEART WHEN I O.D. SO IM REMINDED JUST ABOUT EVERYDAY ABOUT IT. I GUESS WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY IS EVEN IF HE SEEMS TO GET PISSED YOU SHOULD STILL REMAIN THERE FOR HIM, NO MATER WHAT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A DAMNED IF YOU DO AND A DAMNDED IF YOU DONT WHEN IT COMES TO HIS STATE OF MIND. YOU SEEM TO KNOW HIM WELL, START LEAVING LEAFLETTS ON BIPOLAR AROUND HIS HOME,CAR,WORK. WHEN YOU SEE HIM START TO BECOME DOWN TALK TO HIM THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. I KNOW MY EX/BEST FRIEND WISHES I WAS BACK ON MY MEDS AND I WISH IT TO SOMETIMES, BUT IT IS TO MUCH AND WITHOUT INSURENCE AND BEING DENIED FOR STATE INSURENCE 4 DIFFERENT TIMES WHAT CAN I DO? YEAH I SELF MEDICATE , IT HELP ME A LITTLE NOT LIKE WHAT MY REAL MEDS WOULD BUT IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING AT ALL. I JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFULL NOT TO GET CAUGHT. WELL I HOPE THAT I WAS OF SOME HELP TO YOU IN SOME WAY, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS WITH YOU IF YOU WANT TO JUST LET ME KNOW. BUT NOW I WILL STOP BLABBERING AND JUMPING AROUND IN MY STORY. SORRY LOL. WELL LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO EMAIL BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS.
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FL-girl
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2004 9:18:07 AM

~Lachesis~

I'm sorry to hear of your situation... that has to be hard on you. Are there just no other doctors to see up there of is it 'the system' keepiong you locked in?
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 9:35:19 PM

My sister is bi-polar. It's sad her current doctor will not put it down as the DX. :( Two other doctors have in the past and by researching it myself, I took stuff in (a calendar, plus paperwork) and said "hey this is how she is month after month" (money makes her happy, when she has none, she goes into the down swing. Running out of her pain meds really sets the attacks off, I wish she could just get off them but thats a whole nothing story).

Her doctor will NOT diagnose her as bi-polar nor will he treat her for it. She is treated for plain old depression, but I think it's a lot deeper then that. We're landlocked (meaning she can't drive to another doctor) and he is one of 3 she could see, 2 of whom she burnt the bridges so to speak having an episode.
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FL-girl
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 6:53:53 PM

* b u m p *
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FL-girl
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 1:34:11 PM

heidi360deg,

Does it help KNOW that, even though it's hard on the people who you love, they stick with you and understand? I feel like he tries pushing people away because of his ups and downs (whether he realizes it or not), but I don't want to feel like I'm pushing him by being there, regardless of what happens. It seems to piss him off that even when he has a blow up around me, I'm still there. I'm not sure how to take that sometimes.
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 12:00:55 PM

I was diagnosed in 92. I am Bi-polar Type I, and i suffer from OCD. At the moment I am a little Manic and I am aware of it. I take my daily cocktail of my meds. I have friends who self medicate and when either they claim they remember to take their meds or when they feel like it then they miss their dr appointments want their significant others to take care of them. It is just immaturiaty on their part. Yaeh it is a mental illness however, it is an illness like diabetes and you just have to take the meds for the rest of your life to survive.
In reality, they have been in and out of the hospital. That is enough to scare me straight so I just follow the dr. orders, by taking my meds.
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 10:41:25 AM

My daughter will be assessed to determine whether she has it, or some other disorder.
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heidi360deg
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 10:34:47 AM

I AM BI-POLAR , I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH IT WHEN I WAS 19 AND IM 32 NOW. I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH ME BEFORE I FOUND OUT I HAD IT. I WAS PUT ON DEPAKOTE AND IT HELP ME GREATLY CAUSE IT NOT ONLY HELPED MY BI-POLAR BUT IT HELPED MY SEIZURES AND MINDGRAIN HEADACHES. BUT EVER SINCE I MOVED HERE TO ARIZONA I CANT AFFORED THE MEDS SO NOW I GO WITH OUT. I HAVE APPLIED FOR ACCESS BUT BEEN DENIED. NOW ALL I DO IS ISSOLATE MYSELF AND GO THROUGH THE HIGHS AND LOWS. IT'S HARD ON THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE ME BUT THEY UNDERSTAND. IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW JUST ASK ME AND I WILL TRY AND HELP YOU OUT THE BEST I CAN.
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jp hapy
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 10:10:33 AM

The institutions should have identified it and gotten her help...
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 10:07:43 AM

Ex, has it refusses treatment, has been in and out of institutions
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FL-girl
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 9:25:02 AM

Any suggestions on how a bistander, as myselff, can help him out and get him to maybe see these benefits??
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nae
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 3:51:12 AM

Comment for outoffocus's reply:

It is exactly the way you say it is. Someone with this disorder takes the littlest things out on their partner/spouse which is not fair. I remember before I took the medication, the littlest things would aggravate me and I would explode. And like I said at first, I was embarassed to be classified as being bi-polar but alot of people are. I also recommend people with this disorder should seek help.. the only reason why I am upset about having this is it is herititary and my newborn daughter could eventually get it, but if i have her surrounded by loving happy people I am sure she will have the happiest life she will ever have, and... she will.
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 3:18:12 AM

My mom suffers from it. It grew from postpartum after she had my oldest sister back in the mid 50's. It doesn't seem to have shown up however, until the early 60's, and it took a while to diagnose. At the time, not much was known about it or how to treat it outside the State Hospital. She takes her medicine now and seems to do alright.
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 2:40:59 AM

My wife has the problem been battleing for 20 years. Many hospital confinements. But hey I gave my word "IN Sicknes and In Health...some people forget that a vow is very important.
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nae
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2004 12:19:37 AM

I just had a baby about 2 months ago and about a week afterwards it was pretty rough.. I am happy to say now I am doing alot better.. Back then, I would cry and cry and cry and then I would be mad, I didnt like being like that and now I am on medication and I feel 100% better, You'll be surprised, there's alot of people with this disorder. When my dr first told me I was bi-polar I was upset because I didnt want to be classified as such, but now I am glad I got the help I needed.
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2004 9:08:28 PM

I have a friend who I'm really starting to believe has it... he goes from one extreme to the other in a heart beat and last weekend, he was making comments likes he doesn't deserve to have anything good in life and stuff - it kind of freaked me out! After that, it occured to me there may be more than just a rough childhood behind his actions. :(

I don't want to force anything upon him, but I want to help him all the same. It's a rough spot to be in. :(
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2004 4:52:58 PM

that's the whole thing there is no problem till they realize there is a problem. most people do not realize they have problems and that is unfortunate.
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elknoc
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2004 4:31:27 PM

Talk to their doctor if they have one. Most people with bi-polar think they are not sick, but everyone else is.
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UncleNeal
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2004 4:29:00 PM

I have a friend who was diagnosed with it while in the military. He got a medical discharge, and has been getting a "free ride" his entire life with 100% disability checks.
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